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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.22 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 25/02/2004 09:24:36
The disruptors cost 100 million and they are a real pain to make. You can buy them at Amarr. The prices will never get much lower because of the time and materials used in them. If you buy 2 the second one is 20% off.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.22 21:24:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 22/02/2004 21:29:19
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im having a hard time believing the 1st ones on the market
will be for anything less then massive ripoff . care
to show us a screenshot of the bp with the mineral cost ?
You can't insert fake items in to the market. It is not an escrow deal and you can see the stats on any sellable item on the market by clicking deselecting the "show only available items" button.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.22 21:40:00 -
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120mil for a small one is a total ripoff,
the devs have stated that the largest one is approx 60mil in mineral requirements,
so given that, anyone is free to buy it, but they may not be getting the best deal possible
Please show me where that is "stated".
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 00:23:00 -
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 120 mil is not allot for 6 battleships to have a tactical advantage. I have news for you if you are complaining about the price, because of the way these are made. You guys drop like 40 mil per mod when you want it and you expect me to sell a limited production item for a super cheap price so you can pick them all up together. LOL!!!! These will never be THAT affordable because you can't make them in large quantity or find the supplies to build them. 
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 00:52:00 -
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You guys can scold me all you want but you have to understand you can not make that many a day because of the production time and the amount of construction materials involved. Even if you had all the materials in eve you are still limited by the HUGE production time. I am in no hurry to sell it. Buy it don't buy it I can always make money other ways.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 02:10:00 -
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For 2.5 million more I will give you deflation insurance. How does this work? Say another vendor starts selling it at 80 million. You will get a credit towards your next purchase at a discount of 40 million towards your next purchase at the value at that time +20%. So if I am selling at 80 million as well you will get it for 80 mill plus 20% = 96 mill - 40 mill = 56 mill your total cost. I reserve the right to refund your 2.5 million and void the contract at any time for any reason though. I will not if you are dealing fairly with me. Deflation insurance is valid for the next deal only. There is a risk involved if you don't want to do this you don't have to.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 02:13:00 -
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The only thing to understand here is that your taking the ****.
You might get someone to buy if you lower your price by 100 mil say.
Only time will tell if I am taking a **** or not. PAK are against Legion so this is just political now.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 03:32:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 23/02/2004 03:45:11
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any items are more than likely loot drops.
I doubt he actually has a bp and hes probably trying to over inflate the price of it/them 
the base price of a small mobile is 2.9 mil.
for 5k scramble radius its not worth 120
I think youÆre angry because EVO or a Megacorp like Techell is not gouging and it is me. The price is high sure but so is the price of Plasma TVs. Get me a plasma TV for the price of a regular TV and I will get it. Will the price drop? It certainly will but never to 20 mill. It may drop to 40 mill when everyone has the print. Not right now. 
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 09:21:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 23/02/2004 09:25:05
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OMG you just shot yourself in the foot.
First off you just admitted that the price you would be willing to sell at after more get on the market, at 40m. So you just tolde everyone that you are ripping people off at 3x the price of these things. Is anyone gonna buy them from you? Not a chance.
You should of tried 60m and sold alot of them while you had the chance but once the bp gets out there no one in there right mind will deal with you. At 60m if you sold just 3 a day it would of been over 60m profit over the 40 m price you claim you'll eventually sell for. But no, you shoot yourself in the foot and wasted a ton of potential profit.
WTG brains
You know I am not arguing with you people. 40m if reverse engineering is in play, if you can build the massive amounts of Tech 2 components with BPs, if you have the skills to make them, if you have multiple prints (sloooow production). Think about it 2/3 of a battleshipÆs hit-points.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 23/02/2004 09:34:12
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5km range? Man, if people decloack after jumping in their further than that, so this thing is pretty worthless.
Yes if you have no clue where to place it. I bet your enemies know where to place it for you. Maybe they need a discount.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 10:06:00 -
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I think someone mentioned the bigest warp dist field was 50 mill......
Something with 20,000 armor hit points alone will be 50 mil. |
Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 23/02/2004 10:28:23
Edited by: Steel Rage on 23/02/2004 10:26:11
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TomB > the cost to make a strong 40km radius warp disruptor are ~50 mill isk in mineral price alone
No other comment needed. 
Ok... Time will tell if that pans out there is much overhead here. You will also notice the part >>>in mineral price alone<<<.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: Martinus Crimson on 23/02/2004 10:33:50
We are all gonna laugh in your face now ... cause the word in Lum is some-one got the med BP and is selling em for 80 mil ... there you go with your worthless small warpdisruptors at 120mill ... you will never sell one now the med BP is out. And they are selling at 80mil.. will update here when i got more info on it.
Ok please laugh in my face when that happens . I will wait it out lmao.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:47:00 -
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sad news.
5M for small one: useable for piracy.
this prizes are ridiculous. pirates who argued against the automatic anti-warp field at each gates have been badly screwed. again.
The radius is 10 if you place 4 you will probably own that gate. You guys are a bunch of wieners. Prices will go down some day and that 80 million for a medium field is a lie and if it is not the guy is selling at a veeery small margin. You guys waste millions of isk on mods that give you a marginal advantage all the time. I will just laugh if the prices go super low on these the pirates will gank you wieners left and right.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 22:37:00 -
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To make it easier I will trade a Tech 2 battleship with a mobile warp disruptor. This should release allot of pressure on allot of you who want it. Please repackage it when you trade.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.24 05:37:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 24/02/2004 05:51:05
Sigh. If you buy 2 that will bring the price down to 180 mil. I will also do special deals with battleships etc. I would just like to say that you guys paid for miner IIs and now you decide you want to bargain and the items do not even compare in manufacturing/material pain. I will take care of my customers. Anyone who buys from me now will always get a discount in the future.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.24 06:36:00 -
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Edited by: Hanns on 24/02/2004 06:20:12
Why donÆt you just make a fair price, instead of trying to rip people off, then this discussion would never have taken place!
Also everyone is assuming this is a tech 2 item? do we know for a fact? considering its called Mobile small warp disruptor I, not II
I am getting customers and I am almost out of stock with the new pricing policy. You believe what you want to believe.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.25 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 25/02/2004 01:51:24
Edited by: Steel Rage on 25/02/2004 01:49:57
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Steel
I would like to suggest picking one Alliance and selling it to them at cost. Make it like this. Then ask those that are wasted to see if they want to buy the full price. I suggest get some out and show the galaxy what its all about. Make a few bpc.
I have very limited stock now because people can keep them safe they are a insanely good item. Again the production is very slooow. People are just money pinching when they can have fun. They know how to use them... under a station or at a jump in point. Nasty stuff... PC pirates are just waiting for the prices to drop and every one will be shocked to see that they are as low as they can go. I have no problems waiting this out. 10k radius 5k hit points you CAN NOT escape.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.25 09:17:00 -
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I sold one for almost 80mil (actually I closed the bid at 73mil) I mediated between four bidders and the price started at 10mil then shot up. One bidder was prepared to pay 'in kind' with a BS worth 110mil. I guess it's not how much you pay but what you do with it that really conts.
I seriously doubt anyone would start an auction at a loss if they were making these.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.25 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 25/02/2004 12:00:02
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I really had no intention of producing them. The BP I had was an original w/infinite runs. But I see you've edited your original post. I'm talking about the Original BP, now you're talking about selling manufactured Disruptors at 100mil. If they are a pain to make you'll definately find them a pain to sell at that price.
My only source of income is not this item. I am perfectly willing to sit this one out if what you say is all true. Whoever you sold it to (if this is truly legit) someone can sell them at whatever cost he/she desires. That still will not change the rarity of this item. Ooo noo maybe I should panic and drop my prices now. ¼_¼
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.25 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 25/02/2004 12:58:26
Edited by: Steel Rage on 25/02/2004 12:57:12
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I guess the real point is, is that Tech II warp disruptors will soon be widely available. Like the Tech II miners, prices will start high and drop rapidly to reflect market forces.
I have been around since beta 1. I know you are trying to drive prices down with lies because I can observe the market like allot of people can not. Even if somone is foolish enough to sell the stuff below their cost they still can not produce enough to ruin the market. Oh and I know 90% of the powergamers that can build this stuff (if they had the print).
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